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fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are lawmakers going to find out? >> well, they're going to have some meetings tomorrow on the hill that are going to come before hearings open thursday. and michael morell, acting director of the cia and sean joyce will be involved in these meetings. they'll be asked a lot of questions about what they knew about the petraeus investigation, when they knew it, and why they didn't come forward. a couple things at play here, erin. one is, keep in mind, the fbi itself has said very little about this case so far. publicly
fbi failure. the fbi investigated the petraeus affair beginning with fears the cia's director's e-mail had been hacked at the beginning of the summer. yet lawmakers and the president were not told about it for six months, until after the election. under growing pressure and criticism, the fbi will be testifying on its role in the scandal. they'll go behind closed doors with members of the house intelligence committee demanding to who knew what and when they knew it. suzanne kelly. what are...
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what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting criminal investigations to the white house and others actually stem way back to the watergate scandal. an investigation back then uncovered abuses and mistakes and the justice department has since made changes. i have a cold... i took dayquil, but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] dayquil doesn't treat that. huh? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! reminds me of our network before cdw virtualized it. how
what about all of that time while the fbi was looking into it? and maybe they had suspected there was a national security risk. why weren't we, the people who were supposed to have oversight in the intelligence community informed of that possibility? >> so many questions. more than answers and when you hear the word criminal, dana, of course, that gets a lot of people going. dana bash on capitol hill for us. dana, thank you very much. >>> many of the fbi protocols on reporting...
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>> i refer you to the fbi. they have as i understand it, protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branchs of the investigations. and you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general patreaus until wednesday and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi's a place to guy in terms of explanation of the protocols they follow. i understand that is the answer that they will give, that there are protocols they follow that govern how they inform the various branchs of government of the investigations. >> do you think people think it's utterly bizarre, the day after the election and anger on capitol hill? the time, at least the appearance? >> look, all i can tell you is, when the white house was informed and i would let the relevant members of congress explain to you how and when they were informed. my understanding is there are protocols the fbi follows with regards to these notifications and i would refer yo
>> i refer you to the fbi. they have as i understand it, protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branchs of the investigations. and you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general patreaus until wednesday and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi's a place to guy in terms of explanation of the protocols they follow. i understand that is the answer that they will give, that...
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when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> she introduced here's to david petraeus. she was a pair trooper. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of reporters who are capable, but it's a very strange and completely surprising. >> it is and i'll leave it with this, that paula broadwell just published this week, general david petraeus' rules for living. we all make mistake, learn from them, drive on and avoid making them again. next, we have more on the resignation. peter king, the chair of the homeland security committee with how it could put the u.s. at risk. plus, after spending millions to elect mitt romney, has karl rove lost his touch? a look at all the money spent and wasted this election and it has been nearly two weeks since san
when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> she introduced here's to david petraeus. she was a pair trooper. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of reporters who are capable, but...
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she mentioned it to a friend of hers who works at the fbi. the fbi all of a sudden is looking into personal emails. >> the law of unintended consequences. think about that for a minute. it starts out with someone saying what am i getting these harassing emails? where are they coming from? all of a sudden it leads to all this. >> let's be careful here. >> no way. >> how is this working? >> here's the reality. what happens is there is this protection. we all know about the fourth amendment, right? the right protection. there's some measure of protection, and there's also an electronic protection privacy act. the problem, ashleigh, is it was enacted in 1986. >> we didn't even carry cell phones with us at that time, so it's outdated. why is that relevant? it's relevant because of this. if are you transmitting emails, there's a level of protection. if those emails that are stored on a server and they're there for six months, they're deemed abandoned, and as a result of that, the government without a warrant can now say, look, this person is a subj
she mentioned it to a friend of hers who works at the fbi. the fbi all of a sudden is looking into personal emails. >> the law of unintended consequences. think about that for a minute. it starts out with someone saying what am i getting these harassing emails? where are they coming from? all of a sudden it leads to all this. >> let's be careful here. >> no way. >> how is this working? >> here's the reality. what happens is there is this protection. we all know...
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you served a long career in the fbi. you have a shirtless fbi agent, his picture circulating out there. he was involved, apparently, in some way in getting this information publicly. how does this impact the murail of the fbi men and women? >> the fbi agents in particular were not happy about the characterization of the shirtless agent and the pictures that went out. it's been established that picture was sent a long time ago, had nothing to do with this, and it was a joke on the part of that agent who had this picture taken in between two dummies and make it look like he was a target at the range, and he sent it to a number of people including the media. >> the fbi has really been amazing over these past few decades. since the sordid days of j. edgar hoover in rebuilding its reputation. an incident like this could have a negative impact. >> it could but it won't. the agents should not have got outside of the fbi. that's why these protocols exist. that's why the white house wasn't notified, because of what happened decad
you served a long career in the fbi. you have a shirtless fbi agent, his picture circulating out there. he was involved, apparently, in some way in getting this information publicly. how does this impact the murail of the fbi men and women? >> the fbi agents in particular were not happy about the characterization of the shirtless agent and the pictures that went out. it's been established that picture was sent a long time ago, had nothing to do with this, and it was a joke on the part of...
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and so, i think that again we have the fbi investigation. we're going to have, i'm sure, the intelligence committee involved in this. i heard senator feinstein talking about her plans, so i think that we will get to the bottom of this. and i think what will probably happen in the end is that we'll figure out what went wrong here. and it will be one of those critical moments where we have to correct our course, whatever mistakes may have been made. if any. but i do believe that this is a critical moment for our military. >> congressman elijah cummings joining us. ranking member of the house oversight committee. nice to see you, sir. thank you for your time this morning. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> still ahead, a starting point, he resigned after a sex scandal of his own. former new jersey governor jim mcgreevey is going to join us to talk about sort of the fallout and how people deal with the fallout. that's straight ahead. stay with us. one. two. three. my credit card rewards are easy to remember. with the bankamericard cash rewards
and so, i think that again we have the fbi investigation. we're going to have, i'm sure, the intelligence committee involved in this. i heard senator feinstein talking about her plans, so i think that we will get to the bottom of this. and i think what will probably happen in the end is that we'll figure out what went wrong here. and it will be one of those critical moments where we have to correct our course, whatever mistakes may have been made. if any. but i do believe that this is a...
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willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he believes information about comings and goings that paula broadwell sent sparked the investigation and he said there were grounds to do that. >> brian, thanks very much. >>> if a top general has an affair, is it a crime under military law? the answer might be yes. is it time for a refresh you er course from the top down? more in the "the situation room." ♪ [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no
willinger says that's enough for the fbi to take it further. the fbi hasn't commented furtherer. an official says it was appropriate to investigate. >> does the fbi routinely investigate these harassing e-mails? >> the fbi is devoting more time these days to investigating cyber harassment cases, cyber stalking cases. he says they don't go after one on one cases that are less threatening, mildly threatening, which this appears to be. he says clearly there's something more here. he...
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jill kelly went to this local tampa field office of the fbi because she knew an fbi agent there. that's how she got the contact and got the ball rolling. that agent then referred the case to a cyber crime unit and they took over the investigation. so the photo was sent before this investigation ever started. but at some point his bosses down at the fbi felt that this initial agent was still too obsessed or too consumed by the case and they ordered him off it this summer. >> chris lawrence at the pentagon, thank you so much for clearing up what we can. i have the sense there will be a lot more to clear up in coming hours and days. >> let's keep digging. as for how the white house is responding, let's bring in brianna keeler. brianna, the president and congress have been scheduled this week to meet about the fiscal cliff. might these new details on the fbi investigation be a bit of a distraction for them? >> well, i would say certainly all of the discussion over this scandal takes up a lot of the oxygen in the news cycle, for sure. the fiscal cliff is going to continue to be a prio
jill kelly went to this local tampa field office of the fbi because she knew an fbi agent there. that's how she got the contact and got the ball rolling. that agent then referred the case to a cyber crime unit and they took over the investigation. so the photo was sent before this investigation ever started. but at some point his bosses down at the fbi felt that this initial agent was still too obsessed or too consumed by the case and they ordered him off it this summer. >> chris lawrence...
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he's written books about both the cia and the fbi. do you believe the rivalry between the fbi and cia played any sort of a role in the petraeus downfall? >> well, cia does have a right to be furious and there is a scandal here but it is not about sex. adultery is not a federal crime. the scandal is that a single rogue fbi agent appears to have taken it upon himself to leak the raw reporting in this case to a member of congress. that's not how the game is played. that is a dirty business. >> you're talking about the agent that was contacted initially and wasn't part of the fbi investigation, but had some knowledge because he was the one that passed it on to his superiors, he then apparently went to someone who went to eric cantor, and that sort of started the ball rolling. that's not how this came out. is he really a major player in all of this? >> i think he should be and i think he will be. because that is dishonorable conduct. the fbi and the cia spent the second half of the 20th century at war with one another and their feuding was
he's written books about both the cia and the fbi. do you believe the rivalry between the fbi and cia played any sort of a role in the petraeus downfall? >> well, cia does have a right to be furious and there is a scandal here but it is not about sex. adultery is not a federal crime. the scandal is that a single rogue fbi agent appears to have taken it upon himself to leak the raw reporting in this case to a member of congress. that's not how the game is played. that is a dirty business....
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the fbi agent that started the investigation had been identified at frederick w. humphreys the ii. and he says that the shirtless picture that he sent her was a joke and sent years ago. he remains on duty and no action has been taken again him. if senator mccain and senator frame and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me but for them to go after the un ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to mark her reputation is outrageous. >> if the president thinks we are picking on people, he really does not have any idea of how serious this issue is. >> we begin tonight with the investigation. >> welcome back. >> here is my overview with where we are on this today. the soon to be floorious name to go with the story. he seems to be. clearing himself and doing anything wrong is that right? we have a couple of sources who have come out and said, it seems like it is more of a frentship with the families than anything else. he sent this shoirtless photograph of himself. we are told n
the fbi agent that started the investigation had been identified at frederick w. humphreys the ii. and he says that the shirtless picture that he sent her was a joke and sent years ago. he remains on duty and no action has been taken again him. if senator mccain and senator frame and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me but for them to go after the un ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had...
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not to mention the midnight fbi raids and shirtless fbi agents. what's going on here? and will anyone face charges? one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas......
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the fbi has its own protocols in terms of how they proceed. and, you know, i'm iffing to let director mueller and others examine those protocols and make some statements to the public general. i do topt emphasize that general petraeus had an extraordinary career. he served this country with great distinction in iraq, afghanistan, and as head of the cia. business hen own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of the cia with respect to this personal matter that he is now dealing with his family and with his wife, and it's on that basis that he tendered his resignation and it's on that basis that i accepted it. but i want to emphasize that from my perspective at least he has provided this country an extraordinary service. we are safer because of the work that david petraeus has done, and my hope right now is that he and his family are able to move on and that this ends up being a single side note on what has otherwise been an extraordinary career. again, i think you're going to have to talk to the f
the fbi has its own protocols in terms of how they proceed. and, you know, i'm iffing to let director mueller and others examine those protocols and make some statements to the public general. i do topt emphasize that general petraeus had an extraordinary career. he served this country with great distinction in iraq, afghanistan, and as head of the cia. business hen own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of the cia with respect to this personal...
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the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and reporting. we've been unable to corroborate this in the time scale we've had tonight but you do have very good fbi sources. i want to turn to bob baer. he's the cnn contributor. does this make sense to you that this could be the sequence of events? >> oh, absolutely, but i tend to attribute more significance to the fbi of getting into petraeus' e-mails. the fbi, as a matter of course, doesn't look at affairs, doesn't read military officers' e-mails or cia officers. they have to be alerted to some sort of crime or counterintelligence problem. i can only speculate what t
the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and...
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he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of ooechblts and why it took as long as as it did for the pyeatt to find out that the nation's chief intelligence person was under investigation. let's just go through this timeline again. it started in may. the fbi at that time first started looking into anonymous harassing e-mails sent to jill kelley. that's where agent humphries comes in. it was late in the summer when high level officials at the fbi and justice department were told that their investigation had also uncovered an affair between david petraeus and his biographer, paula broadwell. it's not clear when mueller and holder were notified, but in mid october, the fbi interviewed paula broadwell and david petraeus. eri
he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of ooechblts and why it took as long as as it did for the pyeatt to find...
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and it's easier to allow reporters to go in there than it is to have an official team of the fbi. i think the libyan government was concerned that, you know, if they go in and they start working, were they going to be able to control these militant groups in the area? would they start raining down rockets on them from afar and make it very unsafe to work? where there would be no availability to protect them if these things were being fired from rooftops ten blocks away, how would they take that on without having civilian casualties and without escalating it? i think there were a lot of concerns for how to do that. i used to be responsible in my last five years in the bureau of those deployments, of sending people out to areas to conduct forensic exams of where americans have been killed. my last one was the mumbai incident in 2008. so, so, you know, i'm very familiar with the procedures and protocols and need of protection for the investigators when they go to a site like that. this was just a little more unusual because it wasn't occurring in a country where they have adequate co
and it's easier to allow reporters to go in there than it is to have an official team of the fbi. i think the libyan government was concerned that, you know, if they go in and they start working, were they going to be able to control these militant groups in the area? would they start raining down rockets on them from afar and make it very unsafe to work? where there would be no availability to protect them if these things were being fired from rooftops ten blocks away, how would they take that...
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>> why was the fbi involved? this was based on a tip, right? >> yeah, yeah. we were told that a u.s. official confirmed to cnn that the investigation was that he was having an affair with paula broadwell. she, of course, is the person who wrote the biography about him. cnn has not been able to reach out to her and we take great pride in reaching out to every side of the story. we cannot tell you this is the woman he was having the affair with. no suggestion if the fbi was investigating wrongdoing on petraeus petraeus' part but putting himself in a vulnerable position of an affair. someone who might put themselves in a private position that could lend them to be vulnerable to exploitation later is a very serious concern here. >> sounds like they were worried about classified information, possibly. what about benghazi? petraeus was supposed to testify before the senate intelligence committee next week. does this have anything to do with the hearings coming up, do you think? >> the honest is, i really don't think so. if the administration really needed a fall gu
>> why was the fbi involved? this was based on a tip, right? >> yeah, yeah. we were told that a u.s. official confirmed to cnn that the investigation was that he was having an affair with paula broadwell. she, of course, is the person who wrote the biography about him. cnn has not been able to reach out to her and we take great pride in reaching out to every side of the story. we cannot tell you this is the woman he was having the affair with. no suggestion if the fbi was...
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but why would the fbi investigate the cia e-mails? why is this something the agency would handle internally? >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threaten another person. so that is where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet. and since they're coming into someone working at cia headquarters, and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and investigate the threat. >> okay, so the big concern here, then, that an outsider could have access, quite simply, to sensitive information and intelligence? >> well, that is the concern when it starts. but when you look into that, in the cia or fbi headquarters or any of the intel agencies, often you have dual computer systems so that you can receive outside e-mails because someone might send a complaint over the public internet service providers. and then of course, you have the classified e-mail systems internally, and they're completely separate. but t
but why would the fbi investigate the cia e-mails? why is this something the agency would handle internally? >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threaten another person. so that is where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet. and since they're coming into someone working at cia headquarters, and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and...
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why would the fbi be involved in this anyway? >> the fbi is supposed to investigate predicated federal crimes. and they don't know when they start an investigation precisely whether the evidence ultimately will show there was a crime. i don't know what they were told initially by this woman, or what they were told by anybody who was friendly with her who had the ear of somebody at the bureau. but with great respect, that's one of those subsidiary questions. it's an interesting if not then would this all have happened. that's sort of the cleopatra's nose theory. if she had an ugly nose, would history have been different. that's an interesting question to discuss but i don't think it's a fundamental one. >> this revelation that apparently the investigation was concluded four days before the election clearly somebody has decided, whoever that may be and i'm sure we'll find out in the forms of time, that the information should not be passed to the white house, although i share your concern about the white house's blanket denial they
why would the fbi be involved in this anyway? >> the fbi is supposed to investigate predicated federal crimes. and they don't know when they start an investigation precisely whether the evidence ultimately will show there was a crime. i don't know what they were told initially by this woman, or what they were told by anybody who was friendly with her who had the ear of somebody at the bureau. but with great respect, that's one of those subsidiary questions. it's an interesting if not then...
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see, what the fbi -- the fbi got authority under the current foreign intelligence surveillance act to issue national security letters. they can do that inside the fbi without going to a u.s. attorney. my point is there may have been a predicate here, but it's not clear that there was. if the fbi is going to investigate every harassment case, because it's on the internet, they're going to be shut for business and not be able to do anything else, right? so you make judgments about when is there a predicate and is this a priority. that's not clear until you trace this for awhile and get to petraeus, and the question i'm raising is why, what was the predicate, why did they pursue it. >> once it gets to petraeus, tom, and i want your expertise here, what would happen? because i would imagine as soon as they realized david petraeus is involved, there must be a whole series of hoops they have to jump through or markers they have to hit. >> once they identified paula broadwell as the sender of the messages to kelley, then they subpoena the rest of her records and they see an exchange of anony
see, what the fbi -- the fbi got authority under the current foreign intelligence surveillance act to issue national security letters. they can do that inside the fbi without going to a u.s. attorney. my point is there may have been a predicate here, but it's not clear that there was. if the fbi is going to investigate every harassment case, because it's on the internet, they're going to be shut for business and not be able to do anything else, right? so you make judgments about when is there a...
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the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them information on who owned the account of the sender. >> what's the internet address they are being transmitted by. >> reporter: that likely would have been more than one internet address. news reports say paula broadwell, now known as the person sending harassing e-mails to kelley believed to send them from various places. depending on where the computer was plugged in, the sender would have different ip addresses. an expert on internet monitoring explains what the fbi likely did next. >> so what they did is they determined that she logged into this e-mail account from hotels around the country. and so they contacted the hotels and got the guest lists, the names of people who were staying at the hotels on those
the fbi isn't commenting on its investigation. but cnn has new information from tom fuentes who spoke to sources with knowledge of the probe. he says after kelley complained to an fbi agent about the harassing e-mails, agents from the bureau's cyber crime unit got a subpoena and got the internet service provider to give them information on who owned the account of the sender. >> what's the internet address they are being transmitted by. >> reporter: that likely would have been more...
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fbi agents raided her home, taking computers and other documents earlier this week. finally, we now know the identity of the fbi agent who first investigated the whole mess. by now you probably know him as the shirtless agent, the guy who sent a shirtless photo to jill kelly, the other woman involved in this mess. fbi agents name is frederick humphries, over those supposedly harassing e-mails now linked to paula broadwell. hope you got that. >>> controversy over benghazi, as you know, has reached a boiling point, though. yesterday at his first press conference, being row elected, president obama has strong words for anyone who blames u.s. -- united nations ambassador susan rice for the benghazi response. here is what the president said. >> as i've said before, she made an appearance at the request of the white house in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been provided to her. if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. >> okay. so it took senator john mccain about an hour to make i
fbi agents raided her home, taking computers and other documents earlier this week. finally, we now know the identity of the fbi agent who first investigated the whole mess. by now you probably know him as the shirtless agent, the guy who sent a shirtless photo to jill kelly, the other woman involved in this mess. fbi agents name is frederick humphries, over those supposedly harassing e-mails now linked to paula broadwell. hope you got that. >>> controversy over benghazi, as you know,...
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when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on harassing e-mails. >>> new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott, the florida couple caught up in the scandal. they started a cancer charity back in 2005, shortly after they moved to tampa, they dissolved it a couple of years later and they are facing several money drops. what have you learned? >> another twisted part of the tale. public records show as jill kelley was entertaining top military brass in her backyard, she and her husband, scott del kelley, were battling a bank in court because the bank says they weren't paying their mortgage. the red brick house we've been showing on tampa's exclusive bay shore drive, purchased in 2004 for 1$1.5 million. four years later, regions bank filed to foreclose on the kell kelleys, because the bank said they hadn't sent in a mortgage pay
when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on harassing e-mails. >>> new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott, the florida couple caught up in the scandal. they started a cancer charity back in 2005, shortly after they...
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bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi investigation. it began in the early summer. the president was only informed after the election. his director of national intelligence informed at 5:00 on election day. congressional leaders were informed even after the resignation. defense secretary leon panetta was asked today whether capitol hill should have been notified sooner and said, i want to quote, that's another issue we ought to look at because as former director of the cia and having worked closely with the intelligence committees, you know, i believe there is a responsibility to make sure they're informed. did they handle this correctly? >> no. somebody dropped the ball. you never blind side the president. when a senior official in his administration under investigation when e-mails are being read, you inform the white house at a very high level. national security adviser. his council. even the president himself. you always do that. it's a standing protocol inside the federal government. never blindside the president. as far as i've se
bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi investigation. it began in the early summer. the president was only informed after the election. his director of national intelligence informed at 5:00 on election day. congressional leaders were informed even after the resignation. defense secretary leon panetta was asked today whether capitol hill should have been notified sooner and said, i want to quote, that's another issue we ought to look at because as former director of...
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did it contribute to releasing the fbi investigation about his affair? we just don't know now. >> suzanne what do you make of that? there is a lot of chatter about benghazi? >> i push back a little bit. i take a very cautious approach about the benghazi effort. the person sitting in the hot seat and will aanswer the questions will be mike morrow, and he's been very closely involved in the investigation from the beginning, putting together the cia's timeline and whatnot. the president, if he really needed a fall guy for benghazi, it would have happened before the election. someone to sort of say, i messed up. i don't think we've seen any strong evidence yet that the cia makes such fatal mistakes in benghazi, that someone had to take a fall like this. so significant, you really have to have a strong body of evidence to prove something like that. >> the question of the timing is really interesting. i just -- if this investigation has been going on for a long time and we don't know, but it's hard to believe that the administration, that the white house would
did it contribute to releasing the fbi investigation about his affair? we just don't know now. >> suzanne what do you make of that? there is a lot of chatter about benghazi? >> i push back a little bit. i take a very cautious approach about the benghazi effort. the person sitting in the hot seat and will aanswer the questions will be mike morrow, and he's been very closely involved in the investigation from the beginning, putting together the cia's timeline and whatnot. the...
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he followed fbi protocol and did not have part of the case. that is from the attorney who said he is representing frederick. the agent who received the complaint from jill kelley that complaint within several months lead to the resignation of david petreaus. resignation of the cia director david petraeus and on that note, here is piers morgan tonight. >>> starting with breaking news tonight, you are looking at capitol hill where david petraeus is to testify in front of the senate committee. meanwhile, we are learning more about the agent who was the first to be identified to have started this. he said that the infamous shirtless picture he sent to her was a joke and several years ago. and now we will listen to what the president has to say about the argument over susan rice. >> if senator graham and senator mccain want to go after somebody, they should go after me, and i'm happy to have that discussion, but for them to gof a u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and simply making a prez sentation information she had receive and t
he followed fbi protocol and did not have part of the case. that is from the attorney who said he is representing frederick. the agent who received the complaint from jill kelley that complaint within several months lead to the resignation of david petreaus. resignation of the cia director david petraeus and on that note, here is piers morgan tonight. >>> starting with breaking news tonight, you are looking at capitol hill where david petraeus is to testify in front of the senate...
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in the early summer, the fbi began an investigation. the late summer, high level official at the fbi and justice department were notified. that investigators uncovered what appeared to be an affair between petraeus and broadwell. now, according to the "wall street journal," eric holder is among those who were informed. now, october 21st through november 3rd, that's the first time fbi agents interviewed both broadwell and petraeus. then on october 31st -- notified cantor's office. he passed on the concerns to robert mueller. now, on november 2nd, the fbi said there's tho evidence petraeus committed a crime and they rule out charges, then it is election day when james clapper is first informed of the investigation. at 5:00 eastern standard time. he called petraeus and advised him to resign. it wasn't until after the election the president was notified and on november 9th, friday, he accepted the resignation. house and senate bell where she knows leaders are then informed. bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi in
in the early summer, the fbi began an investigation. the late summer, high level official at the fbi and justice department were notified. that investigators uncovered what appeared to be an affair between petraeus and broadwell. now, according to the "wall street journal," eric holder is among those who were informed. now, october 21st through november 3rd, that's the first time fbi agents interviewed both broadwell and petraeus. then on october 31st -- notified cantor's office. he...
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but it's unclear when the fbi probe began. >> the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest date. it has been going on for several month and yet now it appears that they are saying that the fbi didn't realize it until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't added a up. >> reporter: among other questions, why weren't key lawmakers told sooner? the house and senate intelligence committees weren't informed until friday. >> are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes. absolutely. i mean, this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> reporter: not everyone on the hill was totally in the dark. house majority leader eric cantor said an fbi leader told him about the affair and a possible security breach in october after the investigation had begun. a u.s. official says the communications were never compromised and he was never the target of the investigation. another issue, petraeus stepped down days before he was suppos
but it's unclear when the fbi probe began. >> the fbi director had the obligation to tell the president or the national security council at the earliest date. it has been going on for several month and yet now it appears that they are saying that the fbi didn't realize it until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't added a up. >> reporter: among other questions, why weren't key lawmakers told sooner? the house and senate intelligence committees weren't...
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not the person, the friend, the neighbor, the relative fbi agent. in this particular case, kelley contacts a friend of hers, who is an agent in the tampa office. that agent takes the information into the tampa office. it goes to the cyber squad and supervisor of that squad makes the very initial determination about opening and assigning that case to a particular case agent from his squad. if the person that brings the message in or brings the complaint in in the first place really has no involvement in the continuing investigation unless they just happen to be on that squad in the first place. but normally it would go to the experts. that squad handles it. the original complaining agent is out. >> interesting. tom fuentes, thank you so much for joining us. former assistant of the fbi. >> thank you. >>> general john allen getting a vote of confidence from his boss, defense secretary leon panetta, says allen will remain the commander of the allied and u.s. forces in afghanistan for the moment at least. >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one
not the person, the friend, the neighbor, the relative fbi agent. in this particular case, kelley contacts a friend of hers, who is an agent in the tampa office. that agent takes the information into the tampa office. it goes to the cyber squad and supervisor of that squad makes the very initial determination about opening and assigning that case to a particular case agent from his squad. if the person that brings the message in or brings the complaint in in the first place really has no...
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that's the fbi protocol, to keep them confidential. and i think what you're seeing right now over the weekend actually proves the point of what happens when something that has this kind of tabloid nature in addition to the fact that he's a high ranking officer of the intelligence community, if not one of the very highest, makes a reason to maintain the integrity of the investigation. >> one of the things that i was not aware of is that the fbi can access all classified cia e-mail. it's astounding. so given at, that's a lot of e-mail to go through. so perhaps that can added to the length of time that this took. and to my knowledge, it's not that they are looking for an affair. that's not illegal in the cia. they are not looking for an affair. they are looking for any product of an affair that could be constituted as illegal. with that in mind, doesn't protocol go out the window the moment an e-mail is found that constitutes the potential of classified information being in the hands of the wrong person of the mistress? >> i don't think p
that's the fbi protocol, to keep them confidential. and i think what you're seeing right now over the weekend actually proves the point of what happens when something that has this kind of tabloid nature in addition to the fact that he's a high ranking officer of the intelligence community, if not one of the very highest, makes a reason to maintain the integrity of the investigation. >> one of the things that i was not aware of is that the fbi can access all classified cia e-mail. it's...
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the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well because that's against the law. because that's against the law to cross my property. >> i'll let them know. >> honorary diplomatic council. jill kelley talking to tampa police asking for diplomatic protection. that's not something she should expect. we will dig into who miss kelley is in a moment. first i mentioned there's a lot of twists and turns and a lot of people with ties to this scandal. let's lay it out for you right now. retired general david petraeus resigned on friday after admitting an affai
the source tells us the fbi agent said, let me check it out. the fbi has been on the case since then, and now kelley finds herself in the middle of this drama. new tonight, we hear her voice for the first time in a 911 call to tampa police over the weekend. she called to complain about the people outside her house. listen. >> you know, i don't know if by any chance, because i'm an honorary council general so i have inviolability so they shouldn't be able to cross my property. i don't know...
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james clapper learned of the investigation in a phone call from the fbi on election night. it's it's unclear when the fbi probe began. >> it seems that this was going on for several months and yet now it appears that they are saying that the fbi didn't realize it until election day. gener it just doesn't added a up. >> reporter: why weren't key lawmakers told sooner. >> are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes. this could have an effect on national security. we should have been told. >> reporter: house majority leader eric cantor said an fbi leader told him about petraeus possible affair and possible security breach in october after the investigation began. a u.s. official says the general's communications were never compromised and he was never the target of the investigation. another issue, petraeus stepped down days before he was supposed to testify before a senate committee about the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. micha micha michael morell will testify instead. >> we've got to get to the bottom of benghazi. i don't see how in th
james clapper learned of the investigation in a phone call from the fbi on election night. it's it's unclear when the fbi probe began. >> it seems that this was going on for several months and yet now it appears that they are saying that the fbi didn't realize it until election day. gener it just doesn't added a up. >> reporter: why weren't key lawmakers told sooner. >> are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes. this could have an effect...
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>> and susan, you said we don't know how long the fbi was investigating. do we know the obama administration knew about this before the election? >> no, but wouldn't we all love to know the answer to that. that really is a burning question. it's just days after the election and something like this comes out. but clearly, something like this had been going on for a while. it wasn't -- you know, it's not likely that a couple days after the election, general petraeus had sort of a crisis of conscience and decided this is the time now for me to come clean on everything. which also makes you wonder, did other people know about this, and was there a possibility they could have used this against him or to blackmail him in any way? that would have spoken directly to his ability to hold a security clearance and protect those secrets as well, anderson, so lots of unanswered questions, but i'm told more will be coming out in the coming days. >> i guess oert questithe other did the administration, if they did know about it, decide not to let this be announced before t
>> and susan, you said we don't know how long the fbi was investigating. do we know the obama administration knew about this before the election? >> no, but wouldn't we all love to know the answer to that. that really is a burning question. it's just days after the election and something like this comes out. but clearly, something like this had been going on for a while. it wasn't -- you know, it's not likely that a couple days after the election, general petraeus had sort of a...
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we now know who the fbi agent was who began this whole investigation, fredrick w. humphry who is a glorious name and he is through friends and colleagues of clearing himself of anything wrong, is that right? >> yes, a couple of sources who have come out to give a little bit more information about him and the nature of the relationship and it seems like more of a friendship with the families than anything else. the real headline this week is that he had sent a shirtless photograph of himself to jill kelley and when you get down to the bottom, it may be slightly different. we are told it maybe is not so sexy, but it is described by a couple of people that he was a shooting range where they had a couple of dummies with the head and the torso and he had taken his shirt off as a joke to stood between them and that is the -hfd a tt xyto, but piers, i >we, thing wor and now over to paula broadwell psuspendtoutwh utyclearanc ndeiaoneromne utyclearanc may thr wl. >> ye fn wnndeported this earlier that it appears that the information on her computer may have been t egregioua
we now know who the fbi agent was who began this whole investigation, fredrick w. humphry who is a glorious name and he is through friends and colleagues of clearing himself of anything wrong, is that right? >> yes, a couple of sources who have come out to give a little bit more information about him and the nature of the relationship and it seems like more of a friendship with the families than anything else. the real headline this week is that he had sent a shirtless photograph of...